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Taking the secret out of our secret sauce - with Danielle Paulson
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Justin
Swierk 00:04
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Today we're talking with Danielle Paulson, who is
the manager of leadership development and LeadBLU here at Mortenson. As well as
Ann Ayres, talent acquisition specialist. And we talked about the journey of
why it was important to take the secret out of our secret sauce here at Mortenson.
So, you'll hear Danielle talk about the journey, why it was important, and
ultimately why everyone at Mortenson is a leader. I've always thought that, you
know, our people are special here. But it's also what we're able to do with
them and for them. Right in I think our ability to bring people on and then
give them a clear path of how to become a better leader in all aspects of their
of their work is hugely beneficial, because it's not a wondering, well, how are
you going to develop me, right? Because everybody wants to be developed.
Everyone wants to learn and grow. And to have clear language around development
clear language around how we learn how we accomplish work is just as unifying.
Danielle
Paulson 01:59
What we're doing is we're operationalizing
culture through leadership development. And we're doing it in a way that makes
it accessible and clear to everyone in the organization, what it looks like to
belong at Mortenson and what it looks like to contribute to that culture, or
that secret sauce. We took the secret out of the secret sauce.
Justin
Swierk 02:25
One of the things that that we often talk about,
is it being accessible to everybody. But we look at everybody as leaders. And
so, when we talk about this leadership development, that means we're talking
about everybody, right? And that was something that was really important for
you to be able to touch on.
Danielle
Paulson 02:41
That's right. And in fact when we reflect on the
words of the Mortenson way, which was a product of the work and you know,
really branding our culture. The words are in there. You know it we're all
leaders that leadership isn't just a title, that it's something that is within
us.
Justin
Swierk 03:03
It's very hard to separate, like LeadBLU and our
culture. Like when I have the conversations with people about it, I always
think like we lose our differentiator, because like you said, it defines the
culture. We didn't create something.
Danielle
Paulson 03:17
No, I think part of the magic of it was not about
defining for the organization, something that was super aspirational and felt
like who we should be, you know, you've heard me talk about my favorite quote,
related to the blue from our CEO, that it's a lot about who we are, and a
little bit about who we want to be. And I think that that's been the magic
behind it to date is because it feels true, right? A lot of the feedback that
we've gotten over the last couple of years has been well, yeah, duh. Of course,
of course, we do the right thing. And we put we before me inspire what's
possible. Those words, and, you know, the principles and practices of LeadBLU have
felt really true to most of our team members. And that's part of what we were
trying to do is we set out to understand what is it that makes them so special?
what is actually happening here? When we talk about the secret sauce, what are
the ingredients of that secret sauce, and the intent was Yeah, to take the
secret out of it. Because when something is, you know, ambiguous or below the
surface, it's really hard to understand that I as the average Joe team member,
I'm actually a part of bringing that to life. And not only am I a part of it,
but I have a responsibility to it. And so by bringing that to life, defining it
and creating some clear shared language to describe it, it helps everybody
understand it, and it helps everybody connect to it. And what I love about that
is in the process, we're connecting to each other.
Justin
Swierk 04:57
Yeah, because LeadBLUalso like is getting giving
us the tools to have those types of conversations, right? It's not, it's not
just principles that we have, from our culture or from our leadership
development, which, you know, is one in the same. But it really gives us that,
that the kind of guides that we need, yeah,
Danielle
Paulson 05:16
I call it, I call it a language of leadership,
right, or leadership language. Because I think that that term culture, too,
gets a little sticky. And people feel not quite sure what that means. And
historically, that's like something that could be interpreted in many different
ways. But if we talk about it as this is how we talk about leadership, it's our
leadership language. And our expectation is that everyone at Mortenson sees
themselves as a leader, because one of the outcomes of the work that we've done
with LeadBLU, is to come up with some clear sort of standards for how we
approach development and our belief system around development. And the number
one piece of that is, really, it starts with our own personal responsibility
towards our development that we can we have to own our own development before we
can expect anyone else to commit to our development. And I think that that says
a lot about the kind of team member who is drawn to Mortenson and who tends to
be successful at Mortenson, they're ambitious, they've likely almost wired to
seek out their own development opportunities. And those, you know, tend to be
driven by goals and stretch opportunities and ways to to better themselves. No,
it's it, they seem to be kind of height hardwired for it. And so what we want
to do is create an organization that then supports that and nurtures that sort
of personal responsibility,
Justin
Swierk 06:54
the mark of it being successful, and like, right
on was that when people hear they go, Oh, yeah. Right. Like, they know that
they don't think twice about it, but it's not they're not trying to figure out
how does that ladder to how I behave and how I work? You know, we before me,
they're like, Oh, yeah, definitely, like, we'll go the extra mile for our
partners, for our customers, for our team members like. And I think that was
also like a kudos to you and the team to be able to, to come up with that
right, to be able to have to be approachable and accessible, top down and have
every team member see themselves in it.
Danielle
Paulson 07:33
That's right. It does, it takes work to be
accurate, because we can name things that are aspirational, that, you know,
like who could argue with wanting to be, you know, whatever, plugin language
here. And that's, I think, where it's the difference between corporate speak,
and actually choosing language that's true, and reflects what's actually going
on, within an organization.
Ann
Ayres 07:57
It's sticky for candidates too because I think
they, they just really get inspired and encouraged that they'd be entrained
into nor an organization that is really caring about them and their grow. So I
love it. It's it's one of my favorite stories to tell.
Danielle
Paulson 08:18
Well, I love that you're reflecting on that too.
And because it isn't just like that clarity and taking the secret out of secret
sauce, I think without it, or without that process. We can tell candidates, you
know, till we're blue in the face that Well, there's just something special
here. And we've really got something you know, people love to be a part of, and
we bleed blue. And what does that really mean? It's hard when you're on the
outside to understand like, oh, okay, sure, that sounds great. But by giving it
language and saying, Yeah, we've got this, you know, we've defined a language
of leadership and, and once we do the right thing, and we put we before me, and
we inspire what's possible, that creates a sense of people, people want to be a
part of that. And we have, you know, early, early stage feedback has been super
positive just in our recruitment process and and giving some clarity to
potential team members about what it means to be a part of the organization.
Ann
Ayres 09:17
And you know, when I came on board, and I started
learning more about Mortenson, that was one of the things that really spoke to
me, because they spoke to who I am as a person already. So I knew that I
belonged, you know, I think, yeah, so I think when you can identify with them
already, before you even get into the organization that just like drives it
home, that you're in the right place.
Danielle
Paulson 09:42
Yeah, you know, it's funny, because even so our
mission has remained the same throughout is, you know, to create an exceptional
customer experience. And that language existed when I was interviewing and
that's what what really drew me to Mortenson because the customer experience
was so important to me and exceeding expectations and, you know, adding value
to the experience. And so I always go back and I think, Wow, if we had had that
language of leadership or the LeadBLU language. in addition to the mission,
that would have told an even like, almost like a four-dimensional story, or
really would have understood what I was getting into. And so if the mission was
enough to get me excited and feel like this is a place that I could belong and
that I could succeed, then having that language of LeadBLU, only would have
reinforced that.
Justin
Swierk 10:39
Okay. Ann. Danielle. I don't have anything else
today. Thank you all.
Danielle
Paulson 10:47
Yeah, thank you, guys.
Ann
Ayres 10:50
Thank you.
Justin
Swierk 10:55
That's it. I hope you enjoyed the conversation. please reach out to us if you have any questions, but we really hope you enjoyed this episode of Meet Mortenson. Have a great day.